Punk is Dead.. Is it really?!
Question: It lost most of it's steam in the 1980's but does this genre still have a meaning beyond generic american pop bands and over the top hysterics?
Sure it's roots are still intertwined in modern music but I'm yet to find a band that sounds..well...punk besides...
The Horrors and Gallows which are heavily influenced and this prove there's life in the old dog.
Is it dead? what were the factors and is there anything else out there that I haven't found?
Answers: It lost most of it's steam in the 1980's but does this genre still have a meaning beyond generic american pop bands and over the top hysterics?
Sure it's roots are still intertwined in modern music but I'm yet to find a band that sounds..well...punk besides...
The Horrors and Gallows which are heavily influenced and this prove there's life in the old dog.
Is it dead? what were the factors and is there anything else out there that I haven't found?
Babyshambles, The Libertines, Dirty Pretty Things
If you aren't into throw back style, try The Casualties.
I think true punk is dead. The Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys had a political message. The Ramones just wanted to have fun.
The 'punk' of today isn't innovative or meaningful-- it's just lazy power chords.
Eh...no music genre ever truly dies but the punk movement is pretty much over with and punk music has died along with it. Any new, young ‘punk’ band is really just a cheap immitation of the real thing.
punk isn't dead.
if punks dead, then castro is dead.
but he never dies, and punk never dies either.
there's different kinds of punk now then there was in the 80's
there's ska punk..pop punk...hardcore punk...etc.
but things like the 80s punk rockers....you just gotta look.
rancid is definitely punk....black flag...anti flag...
Not to the people who actually care.
Like me.
There are very few bands that can even compare to the great punk bands of the 80's.....
But I respect them for at least trying.
It's not dead in Australia but it is dying and beong replaced by EMO's
It's alive. It's just hidden.
Try 'A Wilhelm Scream.'
;O
No way is punk dead! There are so many great bands out there, that people don't know about. People don't know about them because the mainstream music keeps it that way. Punk was never popular music. Some great punk bands that are still around and still making great music and some new ones:
Gogol Bordello (Gypsy Punk)
HorrorPops
Anti-Flag
Rancid
Pink Spiders (more poppy than anything, but they opened for the Horrorpops and have some decent tunes)
Tiger Army
well take a servay punk of rap and rap will win but just by a little
<big> PUNK ALLL THE WAY
Yeah, I guess you could say it's "dead". Rancid was a nice punk band in the 90's during the punk revival, but I haven't found a good punk rock band since. If there are any, they're probably obscure and underground (indie in other words, which is apparently mildly popular), but no popular "punk" band of the late 90's and 00's have captured the sheer energy of punk, the rebellion, the message. It was a response to the indulgent progressive rock of the 70's after all.
it isn't "dead" because music doesn't die. it's just uh......... like..............on the ground beaten down with its guts coming out
It's really quite sad what most kids consider punk to be these days. It almost makes me ashamed to be a teenager.
As long as there's bands like Gallows around, punk will never really die.
And Court G, while The Libertines were heavily influenced by The Clash (and are my favourite band, I might add.) - they're really more indie than punk.
Leftover Crack
Anti-Flag
Rancid
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Punk is far from dead.
I dont think Punk will ever die. As long as there are still true punk fans it will live. And I mean REAL punk not todays "punk" nah its not dead
Technically, Punk isn't dead. But unfortunately, the stuff we have now is just crap. It's not true Punk. There's no anarchy in it. It's just politically correct, corporate made crap.
If only I had a dollar for all the questions that go "punk is dead", "rock is dead", "Bela Lugosi's dead", etc. Neither are dead but alive and well, thank you. Just because MTV and the music industry want you to think that Green Day and Sum 41 are the full extent of today's punk doesn't make it reality. You already found The Horrors and Gallows so that's a very good start. Mustang already named a bunch of awesome bands as well, so the key thing is to dig deeper and ignore MTV. Good punk rock never should appear on TRL.
It's not dead, it's just not as good
well,
i know fall out boy is like a little bit of punk
but i think is partly dead sorry :(
The true punk rockers that came on the scene in 1977 were showing their discontent with Thatcer, British Government and how British Society was going complacent in general. It as a kick in the balls.. It was a more viseral than Americas Flower Power movement in the '60s. And it was meant to be.
Punk was the only culmination of protest music done in a DIY approach which made it that more credible as a device to take a shot at the establishment. Their gigs were banned because they incented violence in towns across the Island. Although gigs went on and band members fought the police when they stormed the Carnaval when the coppers had a read grugde against the black populacd and these skinny white lads held their own against the baton charge. interrupted by baton charges and police.
Groups like The Clash lived in the "Squats" the burnt out and unwanted buildings that were abandoned and deemed uninhabited since WWII in greater London. One of the worst examples about the punk ethos I heard was when the bassist, Paul Siminon, cooked up some kind of glue or paste so they could get something in their belly's.
These bands toured on stop, rallied against racism and had a larger message that was political. For a while the had the Government concerned and Punk was a polarizing force in the UK.
But over in the UK as you would have here with any movement the Punk Police came around and would tell people you don't look "Punk: Enough." That's when the bands really understood what was happening was being highjacked by people who did not understand what it was like to play and get goobed on (spat upon).
By the time it hit America and Pistols toured in all the wrong places (like in the deep South) no one here got it and they were met with hate. That's when Johnny Rotten lost it because Syd Viscious was no longer in touch with reality. He broke the band up in the middle of the show with the famous parting words: "Have you ever felt as if you were being cheated?"
Joe Strummer, at the peak of the Clash making it and having the number one sellng import in the US pulled the plug on the band because Topper Headon (drums) could not get off smack and Mick Jones (guitar/vox) never turned up for rehersals.
In the UK punk a was a finger pointed in the face of the government and it lasted until the fire that fueled it's power burned out.
In the US bands like the Stoogies and Ramones showed kids that you didn't have to look good to sound good and the DIY (do it yourself) mentality was born. Although the first Punk movement was dead many sub geners were born and still flourish today in underground and Indie scence.
Even Green Day and the Foo Fighters have the edge of the Clash and Sex Pistols although those bands never went on to achieve the stardmom in the age of media convergence.
Punk Rock Died When The First Kid Said Punks Not Dead, Punks Not Dead (Bill Callahan-Smog).
If there is a punk movement tell me it's not a bunch of snot nose kids living with their parents pissed off that they can make models of planes in their bedrooms because Mom and Dad are getting high on their Testors. Give me a break what in the hell do kids have to be pissed off enough to form a group and start calling out the unjustice of the current Administration and the United States as a whole, where is this great saviour aside from Rancid or Green Day nailing it with Americna Idiot.
No way Punk kids here are happy with their video games, cell phones, tricked out cars and living with Mommy and Daddy. Nothing but a bunch of fakers until someone steps up to the mic who doesn't care what they look like, take a four track to number one and scream out his or her ire with the USA and the world in general.
Go to the roots...and youill find the tree has many branches that are doing well; it may not be punk but these musicians with doff their hats to the movement. The roots are as strong as the many branches of sub-generes that continue to out sell major pop acts and find major critical reviews; however it's power lives on
.Punkk can never be repeated only challenged and tested by the new br eed. But they must remember the roots--living hard and playing harder. Coming from nothing, becuase when you have nohting, you have nothing too loose. That creates the passion and the sense of urgency found in thunder of the Pistols or the spot on beat of the Clash.
The days of social objection are gone; anything goes and show me a band that can break through the bounderies that MTV labels them. FcUK MTV--let the underground be heard.
"Let fury have the hour, anger can be power, don't you know that you can use it?" ( The Clash)
Just take a look at what some of the Rap and Hip Hop groups are doing--the ones that are up and coming who don't give a shite--that is a bit of 1977 and a little bass for your face.
Remember the Punk Ethos: Do It Yourself
No, Punk Rock is Dead But Not Forgoten...R.I.Punk.
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Source: All Music Guide: Punk:
Punk Rock returned rock & roll to the basics — three chords and a simple melody. It just did it louder and faster and more abrasively than any other rock & roll in the past. Although there had been several bands to flirt with what became known as punk rock — including the garage rockers of the '60s and the Velvet Underground, the Stooges, and the New York Dolls — it wasn't until the mid-'70s that punk became its own genre. On both sides of the Atlantic, young bands began forsaking the sonic excesses that distinguished mainstream hard rock and stripping the music down to its essentials. In New York, the first punk band was the Ramones; in London, the first punk band was the Sex Pistols. Although the bands had different agendas and sounds — the Ramones were faster and indebted to bubblegum, while the Pistols played Faces riffs sloppier and louder than the Faces themselves — the direct approach of the bands revolutionized music in both the U.K. and the U.S. In America, punk remained an underground sensation, eventually spawning the hardcore and indie-rock scenes of the '80s, but in the UK, it was a full-scale phenomenon. In the U.K., the Sex Pistols were thought of as a serious threat to the well-being of the government and monarchy, but more importantly, they caused countless bands to form. Some of the bands stuck close to the Pistols' original blueprint, but many found their own sound, whether it was the edgy pop of the Buzzcocks, the anthemic, reggae-informed rock of the Clash, or the arty experiments of Wire and Joy Division. Soon, punk splintered into post-punk (which was more experimental and artier than punk), new wave (which was more pop-oriented), and hardcore, which simply made punk harder, faster, and more abrasive. Throughout the '80s, punk was identified with the hardcore scenes in both America and England. In the early '90s, a wave of punk revivalists — led by Green Day and Rancid — emerged from the American underground. The new wave of punk rockers followed the same template as the original punks, but they tended to incorporate elements of heavy metal into their sound.
people don't understand what true punk music is anymore. now its just a bunch of sh*tty excuses for real punk
Its not dead, and its still out there - yes the REAL and the Good punk is still around, its just a bit harder to find.