Do you find it wrong that nurses are being allowed to decide whether to resuscit!


Question: When their hearts stops? I've always thought that it's best to be the doctors decision on this subject but would love to hear your views.

Thank you


Answers: When their hearts stops? I've always thought that it's best to be the doctors decision on this subject but would love to hear your views.

Thank you

They are not - its under discussion. Don't over-react to this - it isn't going to create wards full of patients 'dropping like flies' whilst nurses watch. The issue is about people with serious, often terminal illnesses; where resusitation could be morally regarded as abuse - because it prolongs suffering. Anyway - such decisions are not taken by a doctor or nurse alone - they result from discussions with the families and patients themselves - and are ultimately deemed to be in harmony with the patient's wishes. Currently - doctors and nurses following current protocols may be obliged to attempt resusitation on a patient who has no chance of survival - just a chance of a few more days suffering in pain - would you really want that for a loved one? This is not the same issue as euthanasia.

Edit: Incidentally - I am still in favour of it being the Responsible Medical Officer's decision. They get paid more and are more 'fire-proof' in litigation than nurses.

i thought they took an oath to keep you alive

I'd want resuscitating.

No i dont

Unless there is a DNR then do all you can to save them

very wrong , who are they to decide !

there are more nurses in a hospital than doctors.
In matters of emergency- the trained person nearest to the patient needs to take charge-- as in first aid-- you cant wait for the doctor to come and then take a decision-- it may be too late.

It would make much more sense for the nurses to take a decision regarding resuscitation and inform the doctor(s) in the meanwhile.

i didn't know that nurses could decide i thought it was just doctors
i guess i learn something new everyday
i would want to be resuscitated
and i would want the people i cared about to be as well

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This was always decided by doctors in conjunction with relatives, and it depended upon the quality of life the patient would have if resuscitated - it was planned in advance of anything 'happening'. We had a specific phone number to ring on the ward if the patient had heart attack or went into respiratory arrest - that phone number called the arrest team, if the patient was not for 'resus' (this was marked in patient's notes), then we just made the patient comfortable. That;s the way it should stay, not the responsibility of a nurse.

When I was new to nursing I was amazed at this because I thought everyone was going to be saved.

I think it is wrong for it to be the doctors or nurses decision they should have to try and resuscitate all patients until it is obvious they can do no more unless the patient requested them to not resuscitate them beforehand.

no problem, they are more helpful and dedicated than doctors

they have to do it.but they can decide if they want to do it 20 or 30 minutes.My cousin had stopped breathing.the nurse told me that people over 50 get 20 minutes.My cousin was 52 at 20 minutes her heart still hadn't started back.A nurse said lets go the other 10 minutes into the 7th minute her heart started back up.I feel everyone should get the whole 30 minutes,this is in Michigan.

I work in a place where there are many physicians (I teach literature at a university and there is a department of medicine at the school too) and, from my experience (I stress MY experience), I'd not let anyone of them even take my temperature.

Let the nurse decide - always! In fact I am very surprised that it has taken the UK govt. so long to realise that while Doctors know more or less what happens to a patient biologically, physically, chemically etc etc during a health crisis, it's always the nurse who knows *what* to do. They are not the same thing.

One extra point: We should not be taken in by all these miracle working TV Doctors who perform open heart surgery on a cute 5-year-old using an empty can of Coca Cola and a lollipop stick while hurtling along on dynamite primed bus full of school kids and nuns

Leave it to the experienced nurses always.

Nearly a redundant question for 4 reasons

1. Resuscitation only frequently happens in fiction, not in real life.

2. Where a doctor is present it would be the doctor's (or senior medical person) decision.

3. So the only time there is a choice is when a nurse is on her own without advice from a senior.

4. It's the poor nurses I feel sorry for - they can still get sued if they resuscitate or if they fail to try resuscitate.

well yeah cos u might have to wait for a doc to decide,by that time its two late,he he!



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