Are cadenzas optional in piano concerto competition????!


Question: I'm entering a concerto competition, and I'm wondering if I have to play the last cadenza in the first movement of what I'm playing. ??? does anyone know if it's optional????


Answers: I'm entering a concerto competition, and I'm wondering if I have to play the last cadenza in the first movement of what I'm playing. ??? does anyone know if it's optional????

The answer is 'sort of'. It's not optional to leave out cadenzas all together, but which one you use is open to your discretion. I'm assuming that your piece is a classical or early romantic concerto, such as one of Beethoven's or Mozart's. Especially for the Beethoven concertos, many many composers wrote optional versions of the Cadenzas to be used in their own performances, besides the ones Beethoven himself wrote.

Unless you think that your playing is absolutely sensational, I would use the composer's own cadenza. However, it would be technically acceptable to use one written by Robert or Clara Schumann, Brahms, or even your own. I wouldn't recommend it though.

Besides that, the Cadenza is often one of the most exciting parts of the concerto. It doesn't have any intrinsic structural value to the concerto (hence the option of using a different one) but it's meant to showcase the soloist before the finale. If I were a judge, I would like to see the cadenza get the most attention from the pianist. You can concentrate on your dialogue with the orchestra during the development, but the cadenza is about the pianist.

usually yes. check the rules of the competition to be sure. If the composer didn't write his own cadenza some competitions will ask that you play a particular cadenza.

Cadenzas are not optional. One must play the cadenza in a concerto! Its what makes the concerto what it is. Leaving out a cadenza is like leaving out turkey on Thanksgiving.

The whole idea of the cadenza is to see if you can handle the technical challenge but also to see what you can do creatively when not being accompanied by an orchestra.

I do not know of any single competition that allows for this. A cadenza is part of the concerto movement. You do not have flexibility to omit this section. You're accompanist can take cuts in the orchestral tutti but you are responsible for every note in the solo part.

you should really check the rules for the competition and ask your music freinds if possible

I'm not a pianist, but I can't imagine why a cadenza would be optional in a competition. Why don't we just skip the second theme, too?

Cadenzas are never optional. Why ever would they be? A cadenza is a chance for a soloist to show his stuff !!

Why ever would anyone enter a competition unless or until able to handle the material?

It reminds me of a story about a man who once asked a millionaire how much it cost him every year to buy fuel for his yacht. The millionaire answered, "If you even ask such a question, you should not buy a yacht."

p.s.
there are two options for an artist if the cadenza presented is not "it":::::either find other cadenzas for the same piece ~ if they in fact exist ~ , and choose one of them, or write his own. That is his option.

No way! A cadenza is an integral part of a concerto when the soloist gets to revel in the beauty of the music without orchestral accompaniment. It's a time to display your technical ability, your musicality, what you can do! I am no pianist, I am a cellist, but I would never leave out a cadenza in a concerto. You may, on occassion, have several veritable alternate cadenzas written and you can play one of those, but you still must play them.

~Lisa



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