"Black People" who use the N word ( here we go)?!
Question: tell me if Im wrong: when we (black people) use the word n*ggA it's not to degrade anyone, and we have seperated the meanings of the word N*gger and N*gga they do not mean the same...tell me if you agree or diagree and what are your thoughts...I know we had this talk already, but some WHITE guy told ME that they have the same meaning and they are both degrading
Answers: tell me if Im wrong: when we (black people) use the word n*ggA it's not to degrade anyone, and we have seperated the meanings of the word N*gger and N*gga they do not mean the same...tell me if you agree or diagree and what are your thoughts...I know we had this talk already, but some WHITE guy told ME that they have the same meaning and they are both degrading
Some "Black People" get offended when they are called "n*ggas" by "white people", but not if they are called the same by other "Black People" as a term of endearment(?). the term may be seen either as a symbol of brotherhood, like the words dude and bro and its use outside a defined social group an unwelcome cultural appropriation. Critics have derided this as a double standard.
The growing use of the term is kinda bcoz of hiphop. like: N*ggaz With Attitude , Biggie's song, The Realest N*ggaz, The Geto Boys' Real N*gro ****, Ice Cube's The Wrong N*gga To **** With, Jay-Z's Jigga That N*gga and Snoop Dogg's For All My N*ggaz And B*tches. Ol' Dirty Bastard uses it 76 times in his N*gga Please album (not including repetitions in choruses). This is reflected in the term's wide use in modern American gang culture.
Chris Rock had a routine N*ggas vs. Black People that distinguished a n*gga, which he defined as a "low-expectation-having m*therf*cker", from a "black person".
BUT, Tupac Shakur (R.i.P huhu) defined N*GGA as an acronym: "Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished" in his song Words of Wisdom, on his 1991 album 2Pacalypse Now. In an interview in the documentary Tupac: Resurrection, 2pac further distinguished between n*gger and n*gga: "N*ggers was the ones on the rope, hanging off the thing; n*ggas is the ones with gold ropes, hanging out at clubs."
i wub 2pac. i agree with him.
No as black people its just a form of speech thats just how we talk. Now when white people say it its degrading
IMO they dont mean the same thing
let me just say this one thing about the white people who are always saying "so they can say it but we cant"....Damn right...and somethin else, if you dont use the word, why are you worried about who "cant" say it....its like they're jealous or somethin
white people just dont understand....thats what I think, they say it cuz they think its cool, and i kno they be sayin it when they get into their lil groups anyways...
i use to agree but now I'm not sure... its too much controversy around the word so i'm trying to stop using it altogether
EDIT: it kinda reminds me of somethin I'm just learned about in my history class called "The Great Paradox". It happened durin the Revoloutionary War cuz the White Americans were b*tchin and moanin about how they were bein oppressed by Britain and demanded freedom. *AT THE SAME TIME HOWEVER* they were oppresin our ancestors and it became a major issue: How can you demand freedom when you withold it from others? Lots of slaves and freemen asked this question to the George Washingtons and Thomas Jefferson's and they basically said what black people are sayin today about the word n*gger/n*gga: "its a white thing, black people can't have freedom" hopefully you'll read this and it'll put things into perspective...
i don't really care any one use either one of those words as long as their black, i use n!gga all the time around ma friends, its all ways da white ppl who got a problem with it, one guy in my school tol me it offends him an he's white. so ne ways idc what any one says i use it ne way ppl gotta know what the words mean and if he's white gotta whatch what dey say
Yes, there is a difference. We do use N!gga as an endearing term in the black community. N!gger, commonly used by white people, is used to degrade. Either way, I think it needs to stop. I'm guilty of saying it.
I don't have a problem with it provided you hold whites to the same standards. If you address your friends as "*****" but expect whites to not use the word based solely on their race, you yourself are being racist by holding whites to different standards than blacks. That's called racism. While there is a difference between the word ****** and *****, the difference in the actual word is very small, and since one word evolved from the other it's hard to say they're very different. You can usually tell from the context what the intention is. If it's used in a degrading way for exmple "those nigg*rs exploit the welfare system." as opposed to "what's up n*gga?" You can tell the difference there.
u know what, hes right, and I'm happy some white people dont think like, "hey they say it all the time...it must be alright!". But us as black people are too used to sayin it to acutally stop though, including me.
I would imagine that for black people there is different meaning, but for white people, at least for me, they both make me feel uncomfortable. I think it is odd having terms that are ok to be used within a group but not at a group. It has been my personal experience that every time I have heard white people using n*gga (without meaning it in a negative way), they still get treated as though they said n*gger and yet I hear black people using negative terms towards whites all the time without care or concern. When I was in high school the black girls that went to my school always referred to the white girls as the "white b*tches" and nobody said anything. Please try and convince me that nobody would say something if the white girls were calling them black b*tches. There are just double standards in this country THAT GO BOTH WAYS and this is exactly what is holding us back as a nation.
no, they don't mean the same. n*gga is ok if a black person uses it to another black person, if a white person uses it, it's bad and racial, imo
i was reading the comments
and some chick said
that when white people say it we say it to degrade black people
:|
WOW
why do you people think white people are so racist?
seriously
thats some fucked up ****
so black people can say it
meaning brother or friend or thats how i see and hear it in music and where i live
but when a white person says it
we mean to call black people worse
or actually call them african american slaves?
thats fucked up get your **** straight
i dont know what kind of racist white people you know
but im white
and im not liek that
n*gger is the bad one
n*gga is the talk that black people use. when white people say it is wrong for some reason
EDIT: to everyone who is saying I'm black it's okay but it's wrong when white people use it. how dare you be such hypocrites. What about the Irish Americans, IF we started using the term Mic again "and only we can use it" we only create more segregation! don't you see that by using it you're only promoting the segregation that your ancestors worked so hard to eliminate?!? it makes me sick to see their work come undone.
Well IMO if its take as a racial term to degrade than NOBODY should use it but if its a " friendly word" that's not to degrade anyone than everyone should be free to use it hat means blacks/Latinos /whites/Arabs/Asians etc
And an author has expressed that and believes that "replacing the 'er' with an 'a' changes nothing other than the pronunciation"
That's understandable
This is what I have to say:
I see White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Latino and Mixed people using Ni**a on a daily basis in all combinations. Black to White, White to Asian, Mixed to Black and every other combination possible. I guess this only occurs in NYC, from what I've seen. If you have a problem with someone using the word Ni**a that's not Black maybe u (not u literally) shouldn't be using the word in the first place. I see 16 year olds use the word Ni**a in front of the elderly and it's like why would you even say that. To some, like that guy, they see no difference between the "a" and the "er." I don't use the word, but I am around people that use it. Why use a word that u have to restrict usage of?
What little Eric and Erin need to realize is a word called Oppression. When you are black and you use it's a term of endearment, when white people use it oppresses, when black people say white BlTCH it's different because for 1 black people make up 10% of the population so they do not have the numbers or the people controlling everything to oppress. The point is black people want a double standard and from all the racially motivated beatings, rapes, murders, molestations, injustices on black people from white people in the government, white and uncle tom cops, and white society in general, that have been going on for hundreds of years and still goes on today (even though most non-minorities are in denial about this) they deserve it. With all the black lives they have taken can't they have something? Black people say "white _______" because they are being oppressed and when white people say N-a N-er they do oppress. When white people are outnumbered by black people 7 to 1 in the United States of America then I won’t have a problem with white people saying it, but it doesn't matter if I have a problem with it, they'll just do it anyway behind my back.
It seems either way you pronounce it some people are gonna get mad. I know as a white guy who listens to a lot of Hip-Hop, I use the word when rapping along with some songs but I would never say It to a strange black man, or even friend if I was not sure it wouldn't offend him.
because its a black thang and us black people have been using it for years, white people and people who are against it just don't understand period
I think it all should be stopped because either way, whther you mean it or not, someone else will think it'sdegrading or get offended. It'll just eventually loosen up and then everyone of every race will say it. Whites don't call each other names, and neitha do otha races, why do we? Some might still do it but not a lot. I just think it all should be stopped, therefore more respect can be given to everyone of every race.
Personally i don't use the word even though i listen to alot of hip hop. Since you think n*gga and n*gger have different meanings, what if a white person calls you a n*gga? That would probbly still be degrading towards you even though they didn't use it with an er. I'm not really conerned about the issue since i don't use the word. for some reason i just don't like anyone from any race calling me that whether it's with an a or er. I don't think n*gga is all that postive because if it was then radio stations or tv wouldn't block the word. Honestly i don't think it's cool to hear little 5 year old kids in our community saying the word. If our community is going to use the word alot then we shouldn't get mad when we hear white people using it because theres no way that a word can be used only for the people within a certain race. Sometimes i don't even understand why people use it so much when theres so many other slang words to address a friend by. Anyways we need to get to a point where our society gets beyond whining about words and start dealing seriously about problems that exist in our communities. There are far too many other issues we should be concerned with rather than the speech of another person.
im half white half black...but i decide not 2 say it...i said it like once or twice...but it aint sumthin i like usin....i dont like when anybody uses it [i dont really care if black people use it] but when 100% white people use it i cant stand that shi.t....but IMO nobody should use it
They both came from the latin word niger which means black. But now people use it to try and offend people. Thats what I learned in school.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
N*GGER IS MORE A SLAVE TERM FROM BACK IN THE DAY.
I THINK OF N*IGGA AS-
NEVER
IGNORANT
GETTING
GOALS
ACCOMPLISHED