Confused about Batman...!
Question: Confused about Batman!.!.!.
In the original Batman film with Michael Keaton, the Joker(Jack Nicholson) says that he was the one that killed Bruce Wayne's parents!. Now, in Batman Begins, the killer is shot by one of Falcone's guys before Bruce can get to him!.!.!.So, how could the Joker be the killer if the killer gets killed before the Joker even exists!. I'm confused!. Does anyone know if this is addressed in the comic book!? I haven't seen the Dark Knight yet, does the movie address this!? I don't know why this bothers me, but it DOES for some reason! HA!Www@Enter-QA@Com
Answers:
Why so serious!.!.!.
Just Kidding
Batman #47 (June-July 1948)!. In that issue, Batman discovers that Joe Chill, the small-time crime boss he is investigating, is none other than the man who killed his parents!. Batman confronts him and reveals his secret identity!. Chill, frightened, seeks protection from his henchmen!. Once they learn that Chill's actions led to the hated Batman's existence, they turn on their boss and fatally shoot him - just before they realize how valuable his knowledge is to them!. Before a dying Chill has a chance to reveal Batman's identity, the Dark Knight intervenes and finishes the goons; Chill dies in Batman's arms addressing him by his true name!.
In Detective Comics #235 (1956), Batman learns that Chill is not a mere robber, but actually a hitman who has murdered the Waynes on orders from a Mafia boss named Lew Moxon!.
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Batman (1989 film)
In the original script for 1989's Batman, written by Tom Mankiewicz, crime boss Rupert Thorne hires Joe Chill to murder Thomas Wayne, who is running against Thorne for city council!. Chill is not mentioned in the final version of the film, directed by Tim Burton!. In that film, a young Jack Napier, who would later become the Joker, is the Waynes' killer!.
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In Frank Miller's 1986 limited series Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Bruce Wayne finally finds it in himself to (at least partially) forgive Chill after he is mugged by street punks!. At first he fantasizes that the two amateur criminals are Chill so he can take out his rage on them, but relents when they lose interest and leave him alone!. Wayne at last sees that Chill had not killed his parents for killing's sake, as the two punks wanted to do to him, and thus he was not truly evil!. "All he wanted was money," Wayne realizes!.
Modern Age version:
1987 storyline Batman: Year Two, Chill played a key role!. Several Gotham City crime bosses pool their resources to deal with a vigilante called the Reaper, and Chill is hired to take him out!. When Batman proposes an alliance it is agreed that he and Chill will work together - something Batman finds repugnant, but which he nevertheless justifies to himself as necessary to tackle the Reaper!. He vows to kill Chill afterwards!. Chill is also commissioned to kill Batman after the Reaper has been disposed of!. During a major confrontation, the crime bosses are all killed in a battle at a warehouse, in which the Reaper seemingly also perishes!. Chill reasons that he now no longer needs to fulfill his contract, but Batman takes him to "Crime Alley", the scene of his parents' murder!. There he confronts Chill and reveals his identity!. Batman has Chill at gunpoint, but the Reaper appears and guns Chill down!. It is left ambiguous as to whether or not Batman would have actually pulled the trigger!.
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So basically They were killed by Joe Chill!. But Tim Burton modified the script to make "the Joker's" character More intense and to invoke a natural animosity between the two!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Just Kidding
Batman #47 (June-July 1948)!. In that issue, Batman discovers that Joe Chill, the small-time crime boss he is investigating, is none other than the man who killed his parents!. Batman confronts him and reveals his secret identity!. Chill, frightened, seeks protection from his henchmen!. Once they learn that Chill's actions led to the hated Batman's existence, they turn on their boss and fatally shoot him - just before they realize how valuable his knowledge is to them!. Before a dying Chill has a chance to reveal Batman's identity, the Dark Knight intervenes and finishes the goons; Chill dies in Batman's arms addressing him by his true name!.
In Detective Comics #235 (1956), Batman learns that Chill is not a mere robber, but actually a hitman who has murdered the Waynes on orders from a Mafia boss named Lew Moxon!.
**************************************!.!.!.
Batman (1989 film)
In the original script for 1989's Batman, written by Tom Mankiewicz, crime boss Rupert Thorne hires Joe Chill to murder Thomas Wayne, who is running against Thorne for city council!. Chill is not mentioned in the final version of the film, directed by Tim Burton!. In that film, a young Jack Napier, who would later become the Joker, is the Waynes' killer!.
**************************************!.!.!.
In Frank Miller's 1986 limited series Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Bruce Wayne finally finds it in himself to (at least partially) forgive Chill after he is mugged by street punks!. At first he fantasizes that the two amateur criminals are Chill so he can take out his rage on them, but relents when they lose interest and leave him alone!. Wayne at last sees that Chill had not killed his parents for killing's sake, as the two punks wanted to do to him, and thus he was not truly evil!. "All he wanted was money," Wayne realizes!.
Modern Age version:
1987 storyline Batman: Year Two, Chill played a key role!. Several Gotham City crime bosses pool their resources to deal with a vigilante called the Reaper, and Chill is hired to take him out!. When Batman proposes an alliance it is agreed that he and Chill will work together - something Batman finds repugnant, but which he nevertheless justifies to himself as necessary to tackle the Reaper!. He vows to kill Chill afterwards!. Chill is also commissioned to kill Batman after the Reaper has been disposed of!. During a major confrontation, the crime bosses are all killed in a battle at a warehouse, in which the Reaper seemingly also perishes!. Chill reasons that he now no longer needs to fulfill his contract, but Batman takes him to "Crime Alley", the scene of his parents' murder!. There he confronts Chill and reveals his identity!. Batman has Chill at gunpoint, but the Reaper appears and guns Chill down!. It is left ambiguous as to whether or not Batman would have actually pulled the trigger!.
**************************************!.!.!.
So basically They were killed by Joe Chill!. But Tim Burton modified the script to make "the Joker's" character More intense and to invoke a natural animosity between the two!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
In the comic, Bruce Wayne's parents were killed in a random senseless mugging!. So in the comic, it was a non-issue!.
The Joker's death in the first film really messed up any chance of any comic continuity!. It was the Joker who killed ROBIN's parents!. In "Batman Forever", it was Two-Face!. It was a complete departure from the comic, kind of like the X-Men films!.
I won't spoil "Dark Knight" for you!. Just try to pretend the only Batman film that counts is "Batman Begins" and you'll do fine!.
Edit: dk s has a real good bead on things! dk s, I think I love you!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
The Joker's death in the first film really messed up any chance of any comic continuity!. It was the Joker who killed ROBIN's parents!. In "Batman Forever", it was Two-Face!. It was a complete departure from the comic, kind of like the X-Men films!.
I won't spoil "Dark Knight" for you!. Just try to pretend the only Batman film that counts is "Batman Begins" and you'll do fine!.
Edit: dk s has a real good bead on things! dk s, I think I love you!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
i know what you mean!. they keep changing little details in the storyline!. i think in the comic books Bruce's parents were killed by Joe Chill!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
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