Need help understanding the ending of SAW IV!!?!
Question: I have seen all 4 now, but cannot quite comprehend all of the ending?
An in-depth explanation regarding the ending of the movie, how it ties into the 3rd, and all important info would be awesome!
(I always pick a best answer... no matter what... guaranteed)!!
Answers: I have seen all 4 now, but cannot quite comprehend all of the ending?
An in-depth explanation regarding the ending of the movie, how it ties into the 3rd, and all important info would be awesome!
(I always pick a best answer... no matter what... guaranteed)!!
The key thing that most people are confused about is the following: SAW III and SAW IV occured at the SAME TIME. As Jeff was being tested, so was Rigg. This was hinted several times through the film. Here are examples: an officer claims another doctor was kidnapped (this was Doctor Lynn from Saw III), Jigsaw states in a flashback to Cecil "Time is an Allusion", When asked why Hoffman was married due to him carrying a stuffed animal he said it was a long story: it was the same stuffed animal Jeff's daughter was holding in Saw III, the clock in Jigsaw's work shop and his watch he threw away in the hospital hinted that Time was an allusion. The whole film was told out of sequence. At the beginning of the film we see an Autopsy of Jigsaw where they find a tape. This occured AFTER the events of Saw IV, so we saw the end of the film right at the beginning! On the tape he tells Hoffman that just because he is the last man standing doesn't mean he won't be tested. He claims that it isn't over just because he is dead and that the Game's have just begun -- the games he is referring to is those set up for SAW V since this occured after SAW IV. Hoffman is also revealed as the new apprentice, and his motives are unknown and will be further explored in SAW V. The FBI officers Perez and Strahm (the new charecters) were correct in the sense that someone was helping Amanda and Jigsaw, that there was a new apprentice, which was Hoffman. He wrote the letter to Amanda that she read in Saw III. The contents of the letter are still unknown. He also told Rigg to go home since he had vacation time he never used. Why did he tell him to go home? Because he was the one who abducted him and placed him in the game. When it comes to Rigg's test it was simple: he had to do NOTHING in order to save Detective Eric Mathews. Saving those who were out of his reach was effecting relationships with those around him, it became an obsession. This is why Jigsaw said "See what I See", "Feel How I Feel" -- in order to make him understand. Jigsaw's perspective is that these people need to learn to save themselves. This was hinted several times through the film. Rigg's wife/girlfriend told him he can't save everybody. Also in a flashback with Jigsaw in his ex in the hospital, right after the baby in her stomach died and they were holding hands his ex said "I was just trying to help him" referring to Cecil (the one who robbed the hospital and killed the baby). Jigsaw, or John Kramer at the time states "You can't help them, they have to learn to help themselves." Also hinted was in the beginning when Rigg bust through doors that were not investigated properly for traps in order to see if Kerry was alive. Hoffman replied angrily "You never go through a door like that." -- which is exactly what he did in the room with Eric which lead to the death of Eric as well. He ran through the door not knowing what he was doing or what was behind it. With 2 seconds remaining on the clock, Eric was killed due to the fact time was still remaining. If no time had remained Eric would have been spared. The reason people disliked the film was due to a lack of understanding. Basically the twists were: Rigg had to do nothing to save Eric Mathews, Hoffman is the other apprentice and even with helping Jigsaw he will still be tested, and that Saw III and SAW IV were occuring at the same time since the Autopsy seen occured AFTER the events in SAW IV and SAW III, but was shown in the beginning. They wanted to show us that not everything in the SAW universe is told in a linear fashion, like SAW II did. We still haven't learned our lesson!