Did the Romans go by a persons moon sign rather than a sun sign?!
Question: Did the Romans go by a persons moon sign rather than a sun sign!?
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Why would anyone ever use James Randi as a valid source for information on astrology!?
For example there is this sentence:
"There were two divisions to astrology at first!. Horary astrology dealt with measuring motions of the stars and planets and thereby predicting their configurations!. This division eventually grew into astronomy!. Horary astrology was essential for performing the second type, judiciary astrology, the popular aspect that offered——and still offers——predictions and trends to the clients!."
This is pure nonsense and it is not surprising that Randi gives no source for the fiction he is promoting!. Horary astrology may not have been developed before the middle ages!. There is only one reference to horary astrology by an ancient author, DOrotheus of Sidon, and one authority, Robert Schmidt, believes it was added to the book by another author during the middle ages!. Horary astrology may have been an Arab invention long after the Babylonians!. Not only that, but horary astrology has nothing to do with: "measuring the stars and planets and thereby predicting their configurations" It is the astrology of answering questions!. Since a chart is required to perform horary astrology it could not have predated horoscopic astrology!. Babylonian astrology predates horoscopic astrology as it is understood today and as horary astrology requires a chart tjhat would have an ascendant and a midheaven, it could not be as old as Randi implies!. The math to determine those points was not developed until way after the Babylonians!. Of all the astrology books and articles I've ever read old and new, pro and con, this is the most preposterous, most uninformed, most idiotic remark I've ever seen!. Doesn't he check his sources or does he think he knows everything about everything!?
That's enough!. I have better things to do than shoot fish in that barrel!. The man simply does not know what he is talking about!. Back to the question!.
Sun signs didn't become popular until the 20th century!. Although one researcher found earlier references, it took off in the early 1900s!. You will not find a text written before that era that refers to Sun signs other than noting what sign the Sun is in the same way they would note what sign Saturn is in!. William Lilly did not refer to anyone as "a Taurus" or anything else in his 1647 book "Christian Astrology!." Neither did his contemporaries or the medieval Arab or Latin astrologers and this era is centuries after the Romans!.
Ancient Rome borrowed a lot of their culture from the ancient Greeks including astrology!. The most important part of the chart would be the ascendant and it's ruler, and that would remain true until the late 19th and early 20th century when that cotton candy astrology replaced the real thing!.
Go one better than James Randi and try the original sources as well as some serious scholarship by legitimate historians!. See the recent translations of Vetius Valens, or the Five Books of Manilius for ancient sources of information on astrology in that era, and then look at legitimate histories of astrology like James Holden's "A History of Horoscopic Astrology" and Jim Tester's, "A History of Western Astrology" for valid information on the subject!. Then go back and read James Randi for a laugh!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
For example there is this sentence:
"There were two divisions to astrology at first!. Horary astrology dealt with measuring motions of the stars and planets and thereby predicting their configurations!. This division eventually grew into astronomy!. Horary astrology was essential for performing the second type, judiciary astrology, the popular aspect that offered——and still offers——predictions and trends to the clients!."
This is pure nonsense and it is not surprising that Randi gives no source for the fiction he is promoting!. Horary astrology may not have been developed before the middle ages!. There is only one reference to horary astrology by an ancient author, DOrotheus of Sidon, and one authority, Robert Schmidt, believes it was added to the book by another author during the middle ages!. Horary astrology may have been an Arab invention long after the Babylonians!. Not only that, but horary astrology has nothing to do with: "measuring the stars and planets and thereby predicting their configurations" It is the astrology of answering questions!. Since a chart is required to perform horary astrology it could not have predated horoscopic astrology!. Babylonian astrology predates horoscopic astrology as it is understood today and as horary astrology requires a chart tjhat would have an ascendant and a midheaven, it could not be as old as Randi implies!. The math to determine those points was not developed until way after the Babylonians!. Of all the astrology books and articles I've ever read old and new, pro and con, this is the most preposterous, most uninformed, most idiotic remark I've ever seen!. Doesn't he check his sources or does he think he knows everything about everything!?
That's enough!. I have better things to do than shoot fish in that barrel!. The man simply does not know what he is talking about!. Back to the question!.
Sun signs didn't become popular until the 20th century!. Although one researcher found earlier references, it took off in the early 1900s!. You will not find a text written before that era that refers to Sun signs other than noting what sign the Sun is in the same way they would note what sign Saturn is in!. William Lilly did not refer to anyone as "a Taurus" or anything else in his 1647 book "Christian Astrology!." Neither did his contemporaries or the medieval Arab or Latin astrologers and this era is centuries after the Romans!.
Ancient Rome borrowed a lot of their culture from the ancient Greeks including astrology!. The most important part of the chart would be the ascendant and it's ruler, and that would remain true until the late 19th and early 20th century when that cotton candy astrology replaced the real thing!.
Go one better than James Randi and try the original sources as well as some serious scholarship by legitimate historians!. See the recent translations of Vetius Valens, or the Five Books of Manilius for ancient sources of information on astrology in that era, and then look at legitimate histories of astrology like James Holden's "A History of Horoscopic Astrology" and Jim Tester's, "A History of Western Astrology" for valid information on the subject!. Then go back and read James Randi for a laugh!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
They were sun sign oriented!. The original five planets are named after Roman gods!.
In Rome, astrology was so popular at one period that Caesar Augustus (63 B!.C!. - A!.D!. 14) forbade its use as too dangerous to the proper conduct of government!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
In Rome, astrology was so popular at one period that Caesar Augustus (63 B!.C!. - A!.D!. 14) forbade its use as too dangerous to the proper conduct of government!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
The chinese did, I think!. Lunar calendar!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Sun Signs!.!!!Www@Enter-QA@Com
don't think anyone can remember tha far backWww@Enter-QA@Com