Intuition in astrology ?!?!?!
Question: Intuition in astrology !?!!?!!?
How much do you apply your intuition in astrology , e!.g when reading someone's chart, or your own chart !? Do you prefer using theoritical fact or blend in your experiences and intuition !?
And regarding to orb and aspects , whats your own set of orb !?Do you often follow the common orb set initiated from prominent astrologers/on popular websites !. Or you create your own orb set !?
Do u have to feel the effect of a suspected aspect between 2 planets first before deciding it to be a real aspect !? Say for example , I have jupiter square saturn!.!.!.!.at almost 7 degree orb!.!.!.its very wide!.!.!.and decided by this astro program!.!.!.however, I seldomly notice its effect and not sure if it is present at all!. The same with jupiter and mercury opposition at more than 5 degree apart!.!.,even though I midly feel its effect!.( sometimes I think of the big picture, sometimes I focus too much on details ) but they are pretty much agree with each other for most of the time!.!.!.
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And regarding to orb and aspects , whats your own set of orb !?Do you often follow the common orb set initiated from prominent astrologers/on popular websites !. Or you create your own orb set !?
Do u have to feel the effect of a suspected aspect between 2 planets first before deciding it to be a real aspect !? Say for example , I have jupiter square saturn!.!.!.!.at almost 7 degree orb!.!.!.its very wide!.!.!.and decided by this astro program!.!.!.however, I seldomly notice its effect and not sure if it is present at all!. The same with jupiter and mercury opposition at more than 5 degree apart!.!.,even though I midly feel its effect!.( sometimes I think of the big picture, sometimes I focus too much on details ) but they are pretty much agree with each other for most of the time!.!.!.
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Answers:
Gosh Ryan!! That is alot to ask of someone who had a few blood mary's before logging on!. :P
I think I've already demonstrated my opinion in your med astrology question that was deleted!. My answers were based first on intuition!. Sometimes I know thing without knowing how I know!. Then I search for evidence to back it up!.
I've read alot of astrology books!. Most I bought!. Many used because someone sold their collection to a used book store in my home town!. Plus I lived in Savannah, Ga which has an incredible astrology section in their library!. I have a board base of knowledge!. BUT many of the things I come up with can't be found in books!. Intuition is the only answer!.
I use tighter orbs than are generally accepted!. I give more weight to applying aspects!. It all depends on the chart!.
**I folded to peer pressure!. :P What can I say!.
ooooo kkkkay!!Www@Enter-QA@Com
I think I've already demonstrated my opinion in your med astrology question that was deleted!. My answers were based first on intuition!. Sometimes I know thing without knowing how I know!. Then I search for evidence to back it up!.
I've read alot of astrology books!. Most I bought!. Many used because someone sold their collection to a used book store in my home town!. Plus I lived in Savannah, Ga which has an incredible astrology section in their library!. I have a board base of knowledge!. BUT many of the things I come up with can't be found in books!. Intuition is the only answer!.
I use tighter orbs than are generally accepted!. I give more weight to applying aspects!. It all depends on the chart!.
**I folded to peer pressure!. :P What can I say!.
ooooo kkkkay!!Www@Enter-QA@Com
I don't think I use intuition!.!.!. merely my own findings, which ~ as you well know :p ~ usually differ from the common definitions!.
As for aspects, I use dynamic orbs!. Nothing to do with Batman and Robin!. For example, my own Pluto square Mars!. Pluto is at 2°43 Scorpio, Mars is at 25°57 Capricorn!. Not a square according to many definitions!. Although it falls well between the 10° orb!. In my own experience, I can say that my Pluto square Mars, in their respective positions in sign and house, *do* have a large influence on my personality!. There's even a distinct recognition of the signs influencing the square, but the square is definitely visible!.
I consider it a very tight square, for the sole reason that Mars moves faster than Pluto, within no time they would have an exact square!. Now, if Pluto was in Libra and 7° away from a square, I wouldn't even think about considering it a square because Mars is already moving away from Pluto!. I usually take about 10° for an increasing aspect, 5° for a decreasing aspect!. Stronger when increasing, weaker when decreasing!.
Same with my Mercury conjunct Uranus!. Wide, but strong, because it's increasing!.
But I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that!.!.!.
I'm very technical about such things; if an aspect isn't increasing and you still feel it's strong, then you're just focusing too hard on it or fooling yourself!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
As for aspects, I use dynamic orbs!. Nothing to do with Batman and Robin!. For example, my own Pluto square Mars!. Pluto is at 2°43 Scorpio, Mars is at 25°57 Capricorn!. Not a square according to many definitions!. Although it falls well between the 10° orb!. In my own experience, I can say that my Pluto square Mars, in their respective positions in sign and house, *do* have a large influence on my personality!. There's even a distinct recognition of the signs influencing the square, but the square is definitely visible!.
I consider it a very tight square, for the sole reason that Mars moves faster than Pluto, within no time they would have an exact square!. Now, if Pluto was in Libra and 7° away from a square, I wouldn't even think about considering it a square because Mars is already moving away from Pluto!. I usually take about 10° for an increasing aspect, 5° for a decreasing aspect!. Stronger when increasing, weaker when decreasing!.
Same with my Mercury conjunct Uranus!. Wide, but strong, because it's increasing!.
But I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that!.!.!.
I'm very technical about such things; if an aspect isn't increasing and you still feel it's strong, then you're just focusing too hard on it or fooling yourself!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Am not tipsy but that is a lot to ask at 6!.20 am in the morning here :-)
So bloody goddamn hot and humid now all of a sudden!.!.!.can't sleep !
Some people apply larger orbs than others and according to planets!. Sun and moon can have some 10 degree orb but saturn about 3!. Yep that guy again!.!.talk about being restrictive!.
Once you know the basics!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.I think intuition follows!. Don't know how to describe it!. Is it really intuition or an aspect which jumps at you because you know it is an important one !?
ohhh!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.no intuition and no thinking this morning !.!.:-(
Astro programs differ so I think it is up to the person to choose what is best for them!. Even take the differences between Placidus and Koch!.!.!.!.!.!.Most people on here use Placidus (seems to be an American thing) but I prefer Koch!.
If you do not feel it!.!.!.!.well maybe think about it a little more or just discard !? With Placidus I have a mild saturn square venus but not at all with Koch!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.of course I might be biased and prefer Koch lol!.!.!.!.!.!.but I frankly do not feel - even mild- the square between venus and and Saturn!. Anyway that guy is hanging all on his own :-P
Anyway!.!.!.!.!.!.!.orbs or no orbs!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.there is still going to be some factors involved because not one planet really truly works on its own!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.huh!.!.right!.!.maybe am starting to write BS here!.
ohh gee will come back!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
So bloody goddamn hot and humid now all of a sudden!.!.!.can't sleep !
Some people apply larger orbs than others and according to planets!. Sun and moon can have some 10 degree orb but saturn about 3!. Yep that guy again!.!.talk about being restrictive!.
Once you know the basics!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.I think intuition follows!. Don't know how to describe it!. Is it really intuition or an aspect which jumps at you because you know it is an important one !?
ohhh!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.no intuition and no thinking this morning !.!.:-(
Astro programs differ so I think it is up to the person to choose what is best for them!. Even take the differences between Placidus and Koch!.!.!.!.!.!.Most people on here use Placidus (seems to be an American thing) but I prefer Koch!.
If you do not feel it!.!.!.!.well maybe think about it a little more or just discard !? With Placidus I have a mild saturn square venus but not at all with Koch!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.of course I might be biased and prefer Koch lol!.!.!.!.!.!.but I frankly do not feel - even mild- the square between venus and and Saturn!. Anyway that guy is hanging all on his own :-P
Anyway!.!.!.!.!.!.!.orbs or no orbs!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.there is still going to be some factors involved because not one planet really truly works on its own!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.huh!.!.right!.!.maybe am starting to write BS here!.
ohh gee will come back!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Theoretical "fact" is the foundation but intuition and experience is used a lot when I interpret a chart!.
Regarding orb and aspects, I don't rely too much, if at all, on prominent astrologers or websites!. There is a big difference between separating and approaching orbs!. Separating aspects occurred prenatally - nothing to look forward to there, and approaching are yet to happen!. If two planets are aspecting with 0 degrees orb, it occurred at the time of delivery!.
You seem concerned about this Jupiter / Saturn square!. I have two (other) sons!. One has a trine between the two, and the other has a square!. The one will have no challenges living a financially comfortable life!. I already see it, even when I try to put the brakes on his material comforts, it happens anyway!. The one with the square also will have financial security, but he will have to work harder for it!. He will learn lessons to achieving that status!. Even now, when I try to make it easier for him, the effort is futile!. I am actually more concerned about the one with the trine because he will have to deal with issues of entitlement and take for granted his comfort level!.
So, my point is to not worry about this square - in fact, be grateful for it!. It will help you be a better person in life, and remember Jupiter (imo) is more powerful than Saturn, if you can maintain a positive attitude!.
Edit: I think Left-T is right about Jupiter and Saturn!. I guess being a Sag, I am the eternal optimist!. I don't like to think that Saturn will ever restrict my life even when he does!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Regarding orb and aspects, I don't rely too much, if at all, on prominent astrologers or websites!. There is a big difference between separating and approaching orbs!. Separating aspects occurred prenatally - nothing to look forward to there, and approaching are yet to happen!. If two planets are aspecting with 0 degrees orb, it occurred at the time of delivery!.
You seem concerned about this Jupiter / Saturn square!. I have two (other) sons!. One has a trine between the two, and the other has a square!. The one will have no challenges living a financially comfortable life!. I already see it, even when I try to put the brakes on his material comforts, it happens anyway!. The one with the square also will have financial security, but he will have to work harder for it!. He will learn lessons to achieving that status!. Even now, when I try to make it easier for him, the effort is futile!. I am actually more concerned about the one with the trine because he will have to deal with issues of entitlement and take for granted his comfort level!.
So, my point is to not worry about this square - in fact, be grateful for it!. It will help you be a better person in life, and remember Jupiter (imo) is more powerful than Saturn, if you can maintain a positive attitude!.
Edit: I think Left-T is right about Jupiter and Saturn!. I guess being a Sag, I am the eternal optimist!. I don't like to think that Saturn will ever restrict my life even when he does!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
As Janet said and quote "Theoretical "fact" is the foundation but intuition and experience is used a lot when I interpret a chart!.
Where I slightly disagree about is the part of Jupiter being stronger than Saturn!. when you reach old age, Saturn will overpower Jupiter as he (old fart) decides as to a long or short life!.
Jupiter rules the maturity years and good Saturn years depends on Jupiter!. At 55 yrs old, Saturn starts to kick in and it is much harder to make money at that age unless you have laid a solid foundation during the Jupiter era!.
Of course, you can alwys play the lottery :-)
As for Ryan, you are still young now and will not feel the effect of Jupiter and nobody can prove me the contrary!. It rules maturirty!. Mars rules approx from 20 to 35 yrs and then , Sun 33 to 45!. Its normal!.!. You have maximun energy during the Mars years and then starts to slow down at 35 but still present!.
When you arrive at 35, usually you have attained a position where you shine best and will get recognition and whatever till 45!. At maturity, you are reaping what you have planted up to the Saturn years, when you retire!.
One other thing, applying aspects are much stronger than separating aspects!. The faster moving planet determines that course unless it is retrograde!.
In that case, the aspect he made when he was direct (applying) will be separating if he turns retrograde which accounts for the person, not feeling its affect!.
As for Jupiter square Saturn, you won't feel that aspect until maturity Ryan!. You might feel a trinkle but only on a mental level and not on a physical level!.
Secondly, is upiter applying or separating!. Jupiter is the faster of the two!. Is Saturn retrograde !? That would make the aspect stronger since Jupiter and Saturn are both applying towards each other!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Where I slightly disagree about is the part of Jupiter being stronger than Saturn!. when you reach old age, Saturn will overpower Jupiter as he (old fart) decides as to a long or short life!.
Jupiter rules the maturity years and good Saturn years depends on Jupiter!. At 55 yrs old, Saturn starts to kick in and it is much harder to make money at that age unless you have laid a solid foundation during the Jupiter era!.
Of course, you can alwys play the lottery :-)
As for Ryan, you are still young now and will not feel the effect of Jupiter and nobody can prove me the contrary!. It rules maturirty!. Mars rules approx from 20 to 35 yrs and then , Sun 33 to 45!. Its normal!.!. You have maximun energy during the Mars years and then starts to slow down at 35 but still present!.
When you arrive at 35, usually you have attained a position where you shine best and will get recognition and whatever till 45!. At maturity, you are reaping what you have planted up to the Saturn years, when you retire!.
One other thing, applying aspects are much stronger than separating aspects!. The faster moving planet determines that course unless it is retrograde!.
In that case, the aspect he made when he was direct (applying) will be separating if he turns retrograde which accounts for the person, not feeling its affect!.
As for Jupiter square Saturn, you won't feel that aspect until maturity Ryan!. You might feel a trinkle but only on a mental level and not on a physical level!.
Secondly, is upiter applying or separating!. Jupiter is the faster of the two!. Is Saturn retrograde !? That would make the aspect stronger since Jupiter and Saturn are both applying towards each other!.Www@Enter-QA@Com