Barack Obama's birth time found?!!!!?!
Question: Barack Obama's birth time found!?!!!!!?
Evidently astrologer Joni Patry announced at the UAC conference this week that she had obtained an accurate birthtime from a client who is closely involved in the Obama campaign!. According to Eric Francis:
The time is 7:11 pm, and the date (as known previously) Aug!. 4, 1961 in Honolulu!. The chart gives 14+ Aquarius rising!.
Patry told me that since it was obtained from a “private government website,” a copy of the document would not be available!. It cannot, therefore, be authenticated and under the Lois Rodden rating system, which sets the industry standard, it is “dirty data” or DD rating because there is not documentation, and there are conflicting times!. By contrast, a birth certificate in hand gets an AA rating and “from memory” gets an A rating!. DD is the lowest rating!.
Sources at the conference told me that people from the late Rodden’s company, Astrodatabank, were working with Patry and others to verify the authenticity of the documentation involved!.
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The time is 7:11 pm, and the date (as known previously) Aug!. 4, 1961 in Honolulu!. The chart gives 14+ Aquarius rising!.
Patry told me that since it was obtained from a “private government website,” a copy of the document would not be available!. It cannot, therefore, be authenticated and under the Lois Rodden rating system, which sets the industry standard, it is “dirty data” or DD rating because there is not documentation, and there are conflicting times!. By contrast, a birth certificate in hand gets an AA rating and “from memory” gets an A rating!. DD is the lowest rating!.
Sources at the conference told me that people from the late Rodden’s company, Astrodatabank, were working with Patry and others to verify the authenticity of the documentation involved!.
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Answers:
http://www!.astro!.com/cgi/chart!.cgi!?rs=3;!.!.!.
That is his chart if he is an aquarius rising!. I did the midheaven process (yeah I know you guys are tired of hearing about it lol) to check for politics!. This puts his moon in the 4th; a need to make the workplace like home!. Often family, security, and comfort are indicated and are all important in the best work atmosphere!. There is focus on protecting home security!. Saturn does contact the MC, ruled by scorpio!. This shows the famous saturn-pluto connection we so often see in politicians!. Add the moon, this man does best in a political arena involving the home!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.most likely homeland security or such!. Uranus and the nodes would contact the MC, adding a need to be in the public (nodal contact, also in the 7th house) eye and to make change and to be original (hint uranus is chart ruler as well)!. also uranus shows humanitarian ideals!. Saturn is a final dispositor and is in the 12th; works best in seclusion or with private matters!.
http://www!.astro!.com/cgi/chart!.cgi!?rs=3;!.!.!.
This is his chart if he is a scorpio rising!. Leo on the 10th house, sun final dispositer in leo conj!. MC!. The need for the dramatic, the need to have talents on display!. Toss in the moon in the 7th!.!.!.!.!.a need to have the partner involved in the vocation!. The ego will recieve recognition if he is in the public eye!. The partnership modality stems usually from a lack of parental relations in early life!. A need to go public with the image, with talent!. Moon quintiles sun in this chart; huge creativity and artistic talent!. Ultimately though, no politics!. This chart offers theatrics, art, drama!. There is no prominence of saturn-pluto!. They don't show up!. Neither planet aspects the MC, nor do they aspect each other!. So much here points to the career being in public and through creativity (notice node in the 10th, career projection into the public)!. also, in this chart, uranus is not peregrine!. In the first it is!. It makes a square to the moon here, but not in the aquarius rising chart!. Uranus being peregrine originally adds to the feeling of it's energies in the process; humanitarian needs are intense!.
He looks like he could be either rising, but I just don't see the scorpio!. I mean, both charts point to a career in the public eye, but the second doesn't give as much of a "helping people" feel that Obama is so concerned about!. And politics isn't strong in the second!. If indeed he was a scorpio rising, would be interesting to see if he ever had a flair for the dramatic!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
That is his chart if he is an aquarius rising!. I did the midheaven process (yeah I know you guys are tired of hearing about it lol) to check for politics!. This puts his moon in the 4th; a need to make the workplace like home!. Often family, security, and comfort are indicated and are all important in the best work atmosphere!. There is focus on protecting home security!. Saturn does contact the MC, ruled by scorpio!. This shows the famous saturn-pluto connection we so often see in politicians!. Add the moon, this man does best in a political arena involving the home!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.most likely homeland security or such!. Uranus and the nodes would contact the MC, adding a need to be in the public (nodal contact, also in the 7th house) eye and to make change and to be original (hint uranus is chart ruler as well)!. also uranus shows humanitarian ideals!. Saturn is a final dispositor and is in the 12th; works best in seclusion or with private matters!.
http://www!.astro!.com/cgi/chart!.cgi!?rs=3;!.!.!.
This is his chart if he is a scorpio rising!. Leo on the 10th house, sun final dispositer in leo conj!. MC!. The need for the dramatic, the need to have talents on display!. Toss in the moon in the 7th!.!.!.!.!.a need to have the partner involved in the vocation!. The ego will recieve recognition if he is in the public eye!. The partnership modality stems usually from a lack of parental relations in early life!. A need to go public with the image, with talent!. Moon quintiles sun in this chart; huge creativity and artistic talent!. Ultimately though, no politics!. This chart offers theatrics, art, drama!. There is no prominence of saturn-pluto!. They don't show up!. Neither planet aspects the MC, nor do they aspect each other!. So much here points to the career being in public and through creativity (notice node in the 10th, career projection into the public)!. also, in this chart, uranus is not peregrine!. In the first it is!. It makes a square to the moon here, but not in the aquarius rising chart!. Uranus being peregrine originally adds to the feeling of it's energies in the process; humanitarian needs are intense!.
He looks like he could be either rising, but I just don't see the scorpio!. I mean, both charts point to a career in the public eye, but the second doesn't give as much of a "helping people" feel that Obama is so concerned about!. And politics isn't strong in the second!. If indeed he was a scorpio rising, would be interesting to see if he ever had a flair for the dramatic!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Scorpio rising in the charts I have seen :) I say Scorpio rising does relate to him since he does speak a little bluntly and gets in trouble with it!.
But then, he comes through as someone who can be self-critical and have periods of isolation to gather his thoughts or to straightened them out!.
He does have a forcefulpersonality and intelligent attitude!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
But then, he comes through as someone who can be self-critical and have periods of isolation to gather his thoughts or to straightened them out!.
He does have a forcefulpersonality and intelligent attitude!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
http://answers!.yahoo!.com/question/index;!.!.!.
http://www!.circlesoflight!.com/horoscopes!.!.!.
http://www!.astrologyweekly!.com/data-arch!.!.!.
All three of these links show that Obama's rising is a Scorpio!. I don't know where they obtained his birth time - maybe it is one of those myths that flies out of control into the world of facts before it is authenticated!. I didn't know about the rating system of AA - DD!. However, I can see that Obama with both an Aquarius rising and a Scorpio rising - both would fit, imo!. Anyway, thanks for posting this question and helping to clarify the current trend in his natal chart information!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
http://www!.circlesoflight!.com/horoscopes!.!.!.
http://www!.astrologyweekly!.com/data-arch!.!.!.
All three of these links show that Obama's rising is a Scorpio!. I don't know where they obtained his birth time - maybe it is one of those myths that flies out of control into the world of facts before it is authenticated!. I didn't know about the rating system of AA - DD!. However, I can see that Obama with both an Aquarius rising and a Scorpio rising - both would fit, imo!. Anyway, thanks for posting this question and helping to clarify the current trend in his natal chart information!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Aquarius ascendant!.!. really interesting i always noticed a saturnian impression on him
his sun opposition ascendant is a question mark, we will see his true colors only when he is elected!.
his chart and aspects seems like it would develop a very capable person, and who has good judgementWww@Enter-QA@Com
his sun opposition ascendant is a question mark, we will see his true colors only when he is elected!.
his chart and aspects seems like it would develop a very capable person, and who has good judgementWww@Enter-QA@Com
Thank you!. Honestly I do not know which chart is correct but remembering Janet's questions about different politicians' charts it seems to me that Scorpio, Pluto always tend to be extremely preponderant, mostly in the first house!.Www@Enter-QA@Com
Now what do we do with this information!? You didn't really ask a question, so what's your point!? Just writing a statement and putting question marks doesn't make it a question!. What are you getting at!?Www@Enter-QA@Com
Obama is Scorpio rising on all the charts I have seen so far!.!.!.!.
http://www!.acumind!.com/News/Political/Ob!.!.!.
This is the chart already done on that link!.!.!.!.:)Www@Enter-QA@Com
http://www!.acumind!.com/News/Political/Ob!.!.!.
This is the chart already done on that link!.!.!.!.:)Www@Enter-QA@Com