Genetics vs. Astrology?!


Question: THIS IS FOR ASTROLOGERS OR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN ASTROLOGY ONLY!

I want to be able to have a sound discussion, and that simply cannot happen with "Horoscopes are not real."-answers. I will report them for *not answering the question*.



How do you feel about the subject of Genetics when it comes to Astrology? With the majority of our genes already located, defined and mapped, will you integrate it into your Astrological studies?

Do you keep a clear boundary between Astrologically defined personality traits that are *genetic* or *environmental*, or do you put them all together? If -e.g.- in a person's Astrological chart a certain trait is defined, but the person exhibits a different trait which can be traced back to environmental influences, will you incorporate that into your reading? Have you done studies towards the reoccurence of certain aspects/positions in charts of different generations of one family in relation to genetics?


Answers: THIS IS FOR ASTROLOGERS OR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN ASTROLOGY ONLY!

I want to be able to have a sound discussion, and that simply cannot happen with "Horoscopes are not real."-answers. I will report them for *not answering the question*.



How do you feel about the subject of Genetics when it comes to Astrology? With the majority of our genes already located, defined and mapped, will you integrate it into your Astrological studies?

Do you keep a clear boundary between Astrologically defined personality traits that are *genetic* or *environmental*, or do you put them all together? If -e.g.- in a person's Astrological chart a certain trait is defined, but the person exhibits a different trait which can be traced back to environmental influences, will you incorporate that into your reading? Have you done studies towards the reoccurence of certain aspects/positions in charts of different generations of one family in relation to genetics?

I think this is a very important topic. People who try to "disprove" astrology tend to focus their tests on the assumption that astrology is the only factor in a person's personality. For example they look to see artistic influences from astrology and when they ask these people who have these aspects or placements and they find that not all of them are artistic, they conclude that astrology doesn't work. Lets just take two people out of this "study" and go back to their upbringing (which astrology admits has much to do with determining their personality). One of them was raised by strict, conventional parents who wanted their child to be a doctor or lawyer, they never took the child to art classes nor bought this child art supplies or anything like that and pushed them to take classes that they deemed important to the child's future. Now ask this person as an adult whether or not they are artistic and what answer are you going to get? No.

Take the other person with the same aspects or house placements/planets in signs, etc. and see that they were raised by a different kind of parents, they bought this child art sets for Christmas and their birthday, let them take whatever classes they wanted which may have included something artistic and they find out from an early age that they are artistically inclined and pursue this ability they have that astrology has shown. Ask this adult whether or not they are artistic and what will be the answer? Yes.

Obviously nothing in these kind of studies disproves astrology, yet through these silly, narrow minded tests this is what the skeptics claim.

When I do become a professional, an expert so to say, I plan on incorporating some of the things that make up a personality. To me those things are environment (upbringing, friends, where they were raised, etc.) and astrology.

I left out genetics, which play a role, because that would be almost impossible to have access to that kind of information and just because you have a gene that predisposes you to something doesn't mean it is 100% going to be that way. Kind of similar to astrology, huh? But the skeptics don't look at it that way.

I think your idea on the occurrences of certain aspects/positions in charts of different generations of one family in relation to genetics is a great idea. That would be something to check out, but would require a lot of work. :D

To me, a person's childhood and upbringing is just as important as the astrological influences and there should be a way to incorporate the two.

Right away I can make a distinction between genetic traits specific to the current lifetime, present time history of family etc...that might effect the person. However, more often than not, astrology's scope of influence encompasses other lives, past lives, a past that may not be, and probably isn't, reflected in present time genetic heredity.

It's possible that medical astrology, on the other hand, could definitely use research and discoveries made in the field of genetics to integrate these disciplines in order to give a more comprehensive reading. Unfortunately for me, medical astrology is its own field and i don't have the slightest experience with it. I've witnessed some incredible and highly accurate medical predictions and explanations from experts but I'm not one of them.

Your DNA is learning machine.
Every experiance you have before having children is passed to them through your genetics.
Your pastlives are the genetic memories of your ancestors,

For example, fear of the dark is irrational, this is beause it originates in our genetic memories of when we were life in the ocean with out eyes, any minute something from the darkness would bite a chunk out of you.
Even some of the most basic life feels pain and has a basic nervous system and DNA.

Therefore you are more than the physical components of your ansestors, you also know their thoughts.

I would suspect this would cause interferance for an astrological reading, as a person is more than one person.

So I say genetics.

I studied astrology awhile ago, and the more I studied it the more I came to believe in 'nature and nurture'. Now, unfortunately, some people, when you've done their horoscope for them, say 'will I travel in the future?', at which point I let out a sigh and said 'I hope so', because if you don't know if you're going to travel then you don't know how to go into a travel agency...etc...etc. I then concluded that people were using astrology more for a shoulder to lean on, but the next unfortunate thing was that my clients wanted me to be a 'fortune teller'. I stopped doing horoscopes for a while and then studied 'nature and nurture' and concluded that both nature and nurture were making my clients seek me out. I then concluded at what I needed to do was to approach the client and ask for full details - an astrologer is not a fortune teller, and see from their answers what their nurture has been - very often their early circumstances and their upbringing gives them an outlook on life. I won't say any more, suffice to say that my clients became disillusioned - there was a lot they didn't want to say about themselves.

genetics is an built part of our bodys that is there before we are born,different parts of gentics affect the way we live our lives.


you could incorporate some aspects of gentic traits into the atsrological paths

I just read the astrology chart "as is". I don't complicate matters with "genetics" vs "astrology".

After all, the chart is a map, and you just read maps, and that's it.

I am not sure if I understand you correctly........

Well......we are passed down some physical characterics from our parents/ancesters that is for sure...but along with that we are also passed down some astrological traits.......and sometimes there is the black sheep in the family in order to bring "new blood" metaphorically speaking.

Liz Greene studied generations about this subject in depth..forgot in which book of hers.

But I take it also that the houses are our environment : what is expected from us and our signs/placements and combinations are the blue print.

So sometimes signs etc get on very well in a particular house or ............they do not.......feeling very uncomfortable.

It should be a give and take energy but it does not always appear to be.........

In another level.....you really can not NOT take the person 's background into consideration. Some people ask for their chart analysis.......but where were they born ??? India ? Europe ? America etc ?? You just cannot separate the ethnie and background of one person, the particular values they were taught to obey, rules, etc.........

That is why I just do not want to look at a chart without looking at the person's background........Some societies repress or encourage certain traits. It is all invaluable.

but if you do want to make a certain genealogy of charts.....you sure will find traits being passed down...



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